Catch Cans is it worth it on a daily driver

[Tor]

I was checking the LX and Custom Magnums forums and saw alot of information on them. Does any beside Nathan (saw he was using one) use them ? I understand the benefit of oil residue being captured instead of cycled thru the motor. I have pretty much stock 5.7 not the lightest foot but not racing on the track though. Any opinions thanks.

[Mecha]

i have had one over year and mine is a daily driver.

worth the investment

[Founder]

Yes, that is the answer to your question

[CamoCharger]

Most definately worth having on a daily driver. Mine catches a lot of oil, you would be surprised.

[blacksax1]

It's worth it!

[WrenchJeff]

Most definitely. I could give you the Readers Digest version of the answer but rest assured, it`s almost the best money you can spend on your car.

[EZCORPION]

Mine is on route to my house!!!!

[baddazzgasser]

mandatory investment to catch oil before it gets to intake

[Texasbrotha420]

Then I guess I'll have to be the odd one here. I don't know alot about engines. I'm just a brotha that likes to drive fast. I've read articles about the catch can, but I'm still baffled as to why a HAVE to have it. If this "extra" oil is so bad, then why did Dodge build an engine that has excess dirty oil? Is it just these engines or do all engines produce this? And if it's all then why don't manufactures have these as part of the standard engine? Just trying to learn here.

[BigMike608]

then i guess i'll have to be the odd one here. I don't know alot about engines. I'm just a brotha that likes to drive fast. I've read articles about the catch can, but i'm still baffled as to why a have to have it. If this "extra" oil is so bad, then why did dodge build an engine that has excess dirty oil? Is it just these engines or do all engines produce this? And if it's all then why don't manufactures have these as part of the standard engine? Just trying to learn here.

very good question!!!

[Swolja]

I ordered my catch can about 2 weeks ago.. Due to hurricane Ike i still havent received it =/. Ive tracked it, and it says its been at the post office since the 11th, but my post office is still boarded up.

Also, just ordered my hood struts today =]

[CamoCharger]

Then I guess I'll have to be the odd one here. I don't know alot about engines. I'm just a brotha that likes to drive fast. I've read articles about the catch can, but I'm still baffled as to why a HAVE to have it. If this "extra" oil is so bad, then why did Dodge build an engine that has excess dirty oil? Is it just these engines or do all engines produce this? And if it's all then why don't manufactures have these as part of the standard engine? Just trying to learn here.
I know and understand what the catch can does. But like you I wonder why an engine is built that will consume oil like this. Maybe its always been this way and this was something that was just recently thought up. I really dont know, all I know is it works.

[WrenchJeff]

The crankcase has to have a way to breathe, release the pressure built up inside. This is done through the PCV, Positive Crankcase Ventilation, system. The PCV system operates off vacuum which is air being pulled into the engine on the down stroke of the piston with the intake valve open. Oil vapor in the crankcase is sucked into the intake system during this process. With a catch can the oil vapor is trapped in the can instead of going into the intake manifold. All 4 strokes are built like this, not just Dodges. Why they do not manufacture engines with a catch can installed is beyond me.

[Rev Scorpion]

The old Fords specifically!!!!

They used to sludge up from the oil and oil vapor so badly that the engine would stall on decel.
The oil would literally seal the throttle plate and idle air control valve shut.

They probably dont install them from the factory because buyers wouldnt understand and it would just clog from neglect.

[CamoCharger]

They probably dont install them from the factory because buyers wouldnt understand and it would just clog from neglect.

Its sad, but that makes complete sense.

[ChargerOsix]

One reason for using a catch can is to keep oil deposits from building up on the intake valves. When oil deposits build up, it affects performance and gas mileage. If enough builds up, it could keep the valves from closing all the way (valve tick). The catch can is definitely worth it. I also am prudent about using a fuel system cleaner to get rid of oil deposits.

[Tor]

Cool thanks for the input everyone gonna have to get one.....

[Rev Scorpion]

Simple fact:

BT catch cans look way cool.
Who cares if it is needed.

I didnt need my custom emblems and I got them.

Technically, we dont "need" custom rims, CAI, Predator........:head3:

[EZCORPION]

SO so True:wavey:



BT catch cans look way cool.
Who cares if it is needed.

[cadzilla74]

The crankcase has to have a way to breathe, release the pressure built up inside. This is done through the PCV, Positive Crankcase Ventilation, system. The PCV system operates off vacuum which is air being pulled into the engine on the down stroke of the piston with the intake valve open. Oil vapor in the crankcase is sucked into the intake system during this process. With a catch can the oil vapor is trapped in the can instead of going into the intake manifold. All 4 strokes are built like this, not just Dodges. Why they do not manufacture engines with a catch can installed is beyond me.

And thanks to Jeff another mod hits the list ... <sigh> ... there is no end to this .... thank God ...

[CamoCharger]

And thanks to Jeff another mod hits the list ... <sigh> ... there is no end to this .... thank God ...

The modding must never stop.....LOL:susel:

[WrenchJeff]

And thanks to Jeff another mod hits the list ... <sigh> ... there is no end to this .... thank God ...

LOL...glad I could be of assistance to you bro. :)

[BLACKNCHROME07]

Is billet tech the only place to get one that matches under the hood?

[Plum Crazy]

Is billet tech the only place to get one that matches under the hood?

BT is the only place that I have seen that makes a catch can specifically for our cars. You can buy universal catch cans but they don't look nearly as good as the catch cans from Billet Technology. ( IMO )

[GONZOsMAGNUM]

Big Bully is working on some catch cans ..... they're hexagon-shaped .....

http://www.custommagnums.com/forums/bigbully-intakes/21069-probably-most-awesomest-catch-cans-ever.html (http://www.custommagnums.com/forums/bigbully-intakes/21069-probably-most-awesomest-catch-cans-ever.html)

http://www.custommagnums.com/forums/bigbully-intakes/21296-tentative-hemi-2-7-catch-can-brackets.html (http://www.custommagnums.com/forums/bigbully-intakes/21296-tentative-hemi-2-7-catch-can-brackets.html)

[B00MER]

After my first oil change i noticed the throttle body was gummed up, throttle response was already weird with HAL enabled. After much reading I heard the same, most saying it was just as required as blinker fluid and some swore by it, granted this was just general automotive sites, most all LX sites had claims otherwise. Either way its been on my list for awhile.

[B00MER]

Another one of those debatable products as well are throttle body spacers...

[SweepzSRT]

Well dam...now I have to go buy one with all this tech talk that makes so much sense.

[GONZOsMAGNUM]

BT is having a Memorial Day special ..... $80 for a satin catch can.

[cadzilla74]

Billet Tech is the way to go if you really want one ... nice price for the special ... initially they had an issue with the hoses collapsing under severe duty pressure but that was a long time ago and the hoses they use now have no issues ... I have 63,000 miles on my RT and have not used a catch can ... I pour a bottle of injector cleaner in a tank of gas every 3,000 mile when I do an oil change (dino-oil not synthetic) and have never seen any drop in performance nor any deposits nor any evidence of sludging anywhere in my RT 5.7L ... I also change my plugs every 30,000 as recommended ... "snake-oil"? I'd never say that ... benefit to the car over the long haul ... maybe ... looks good, yep ... high quality all the way ...

The fact that this car was designed by the combined efforts of Mercedes and Chrysler before it all went to sh!t and neither manufacturer has ever used a catch can as part of their design tells me this does nothing but "show you" what occasionally passes through your system but the fact that a combined 100 years of automotive design and engineering "tells them" it is completely unnecessary speaks volumes.

Your mileage may vary ...

[GONZOsMAGNUM]

after tearing my motor apart and seeing all of that dried up oil in there, I am definately gettin' myself a BT Catch Can ..... nastiness.

[HELLBOUND]

Well since I read this post I guess I'll need to get one to.With all the engine mods going in to the car it will be needed.

[Cavalicious]

Billet Tech is the way to go if you really want one ... nice price for the special ... initially they had an issue with the hoses collapsing under severe duty pressure but that was a long time ago and the hoses they use now have no issues ... I have 63,000 miles on my RT and have not used a catch can ... I pour a bottle of injector cleaner in a tank of gas every 3,000 mile when I do an oil change (dino-oil not synthetic) and have never seen any drop in performance nor any deposits nor any evidence of sludging anywhere in my RT 5.7L ... I also change my plugs every 30,000 as recommended ... "snake-oil"? I'd never say that ... benefit to the car over the long haul ... maybe ... looks good, yep ... high quality all the way ...

The fact that this car was designed by the combined efforts of Mercedes and Chrysler before it all went to sh!t and neither manufacturer has ever used a catch can as part of their design tells me this does nothing but "show you" what occasionally passes through your system but the fact that a combined 100 years of automotive design and engineering "tells them" it is completely unnecessary speaks volumes.

Your mileage may vary ...

x2 This has been debated on the SRT8 forums for a while, with no conclusive evidence that it helps...at least performance wise. It *may* help keep things clean (a little), but when were engines made to function only when crystal clean?

/2cents

[GONZOsMAGNUM]

some people have had knocking eliminated when installing a catch can.

[web29]

just as required as blinker fluid


OMG, I'm just over 39k miles and have never changed the blinker fluid! I hope that doesn't void the warranty. Running to O'Reilly's right now...! :loser1:











jk of course

[HELLBOUND]

[QUOTE=web29;70900]blinker fluid![QUOTE]

Blinker fluid that funny :i_rolleyes:

[rodeowerewolf]

Its sad, but that makes complete sense.

I agree this does make sense, but it kind of makes you wonder why they don't have a drip hose like a drain on an air conditioner for condensation that points away from the intake.

I think the Catch Can is a great way to contain the mess, but you would think someone would engineer something more than this that dissipates the oil automatically as you drive, so it doesn't have to be cleaned out to regularly.

Not that I'm saying I have a problem cleaning it out but for the regular person that doesn't there has to be a better design to resolution for the regular person.

Eventually it would gunk up and you could clean it, but not from filling up with dirty oil, you would think it could drain. That you would think would solve the average user issue, and then clean the system on oil changes.

Just a thought...maybe my logic is flawed somewhere.